1 00:00:12,030 --> 00:00:10,259 hello everybody and welcome to news from 2 00:00:14,130 --> 00:00:12,040 Hubble and across the universe this is 3 00:00:16,980 --> 00:00:14,140 our monthly hangout where we get to meet 4 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:16,990 with dr. Frank summers to discuss a lot 5 00:00:20,489 --> 00:00:19,119 of great new science and happenings in 6 00:00:22,950 --> 00:00:20,499 both astronomy and with the Hubble Space 7 00:00:24,329 --> 00:00:22,960 Telescope my name is Tony Darnell I work 8 00:00:26,669 --> 00:00:24,339 at the Space Telescope Science Institute 9 00:00:29,069 --> 00:00:26,679 with Frank and welcome Frank it's good 10 00:00:31,079 --> 00:00:29,079 to see you again get to see you Tony how 11 00:00:33,060 --> 00:00:31,089 how everything's in this last month we 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:33,070 haven't actually talked since July now I 13 00:00:36,420 --> 00:00:34,570 know it's been it's been a while since 14 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:36,430 we've been doing this so we got a lot to 15 00:00:39,959 --> 00:00:38,260 catch up on but before we get started 16 00:00:41,279 --> 00:00:39,969 let me remind everybody how you can 17 00:00:42,810 --> 00:00:41,289 interact with us if you want to leave 18 00:00:45,180 --> 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--> 00:01:15,550 couldn't get our stuff together and time 33 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:18,430 to make it happen so we are going to we 34 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:20,950 had a lot of things to cover and Frank I 35 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:22,450 will turn it over to you to get us 36 00:01:26,690 --> 00:01:24,850 started yeah you know I will apologize 37 00:01:30,540 --> 00:01:26,700 that I was out of the country i was in 38 00:01:33,750 --> 00:01:30,550 vancouver for a week so we oughta stay 39 00:01:38,180 --> 00:01:33,760 pretty busy month for vacations and 40 00:01:41,190 --> 00:01:38,190 travel and such so we will do now a 41 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:41,200 extra big show extra cool stories for 42 00:01:45,030 --> 00:01:43,600 you today okay cool yeah there's some 43 00:01:46,470 --> 00:01:45,040 research stuff that happened last week 44 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:46,480 or last month I think that you covered 45 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:47,680 that you're going to also cover with it 46 00:01:51,450 --> 00:01:49,600 so exactly and that's gonna be my first 47 00:01:54,060 --> 00:01:51,460 story okay because this happened just 48 00:01:58,380 --> 00:01:54,070 before I left for Vancouver alright so 49 00:02:04,680 --> 00:01:58,390 story number one rosetta rendezvous with 50 00:02:08,009 --> 00:02:04,690 rubber ducky okay like that rubber ducky 51 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:08,019 bardot j-just where do you see ladies as 52 00:02:11,550 --> 00:02:09,640 you know all about this all right Oh 53 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:11,560 first of all this is about the Rosetta 54 00:02:18,350 --> 00:02:14,050 mission and it's a mission to 55 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:18,360 a comet comet 67p churyumov-gerasimenko 56 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:24,490 oh that's a tough thing to say as you 57 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:27,610 can see pictured here of they've got the 58 00:02:33,660 --> 00:02:31,900 Rosetta is the low the spacecraft with 59 00:02:35,610 --> 00:02:33,670 the long wings on it that's that's the 60 00:02:40,140 --> 00:02:35,620 Rosetta mission itself and then they 61 00:02:42,870 --> 00:02:40,150 also have the the feel a pro but that is 62 00:02:46,940 --> 00:02:42,880 going to land on the comet okay so its 63 00:02:49,290 --> 00:02:46,950 guts combination of a flyby as well as a 64 00:02:52,260 --> 00:02:49,300 probe landing on it although it's 65 00:02:54,330 --> 00:02:52,270 actually more than just a flyby okay now 66 00:02:56,850 --> 00:02:54,340 we've been passed a bunch of other 67 00:03:00,630 --> 00:02:56,860 comments before and as you can see in 68 00:03:02,690 --> 00:03:00,640 this slide here the here are what six 69 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:02,700 different comets that we have visited 70 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:04,780 basically generally generally with 71 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:07,630 flybys and you can see there you know 72 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:09,970 about five miles cross from one miles to 73 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:12,010 nine miles across and they've got these 74 00:03:17,370 --> 00:03:15,370 oblong shapes and most of them were sort 75 00:03:19,650 --> 00:03:17,380 of roundish or potato ish although I 76 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:19,660 think barley and Hartley they could they 77 00:03:24,030 --> 00:03:21,850 could be bowling pin comets all right 78 00:03:25,410 --> 00:03:24,040 they look like bowling pins but my 79 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:25,420 professor always called him oblate 80 00:03:34,020 --> 00:03:31,750 spheroids but deep impact actually hit 81 00:03:36,030 --> 00:03:34,030 we didn't just fly by right ya know deep 82 00:03:38,970 --> 00:03:36,040 impact we actually did a flyby and we 83 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:38,980 did a smash in if we did both us fly by 84 00:03:43,290 --> 00:03:41,310 and and we didn't land gently okay 85 00:03:44,670 --> 00:03:43,300 that's the difference with this one this 86 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:44,680 one we're going to try and land gently 87 00:03:50,250 --> 00:03:46,770 with deep impact we actually tried to 88 00:03:51,630 --> 00:03:50,260 smash it smash into it we saw all the 89 00:03:53,550 --> 00:03:51,640 powdery stuff come out of it so we've 90 00:03:57,870 --> 00:03:53,560 been there we sort of know but what 91 00:04:01,050 --> 00:03:57,880 we've never done is actually travel 92 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:01,060 along with the for an extended period so 93 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:03,010 this is what rosetta's going to do here 94 00:04:06,449 --> 00:04:05,080 is the whole timeline okay you can try 95 00:04:08,340 --> 00:04:06,459 and read that the problems fonts 96 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:08,350 probably too small read over this but 97 00:04:15,570 --> 00:04:10,890 the idea is that it's it launched in 98 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:15,580 2004 march of 2004 it's gotten yeah I 99 00:04:22,070 --> 00:04:18,070 got gravity assists from Earth Mars 100 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:22,080 Earth asteroid Stein's earth again 101 00:04:28,420 --> 00:04:26,690 asteroid Natasha and 102 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:28,430 yeah so it's got like seven different 103 00:04:35,650 --> 00:04:32,330 gravity assists in order to make in size 104 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:35,660 and gravity huh extra an extreme 105 00:04:41,050 --> 00:04:37,610 exercise in celestial mechanics okay 106 00:04:44,380 --> 00:04:41,060 yeah the but the point was it arrived at 107 00:04:46,990 --> 00:04:44,390 the comet August sixth of last month now 108 00:04:49,030 --> 00:04:47,000 it's better understand the the orbits if 109 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:49,040 you show it here and so here you can see 110 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:51,730 the orbital pass and all of the early 111 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:54,560 gravity assists were there to put it on 112 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:57,530 a much more elliptical orbit so that it 113 00:05:02,410 --> 00:05:00,320 could match the orbit of chair yamaha 114 00:05:03,730 --> 00:05:02,420 jeramaz seem ankle are those does it 115 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:03,740 take a lot of energy to get into an 116 00:05:10,210 --> 00:05:05,530 orbit like that 02 an elliptical orbit 117 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:10,220 well yeah simply because your earth is 118 00:05:14,530 --> 00:05:12,290 on a circular orbit when you launch from 119 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:14,540 Earth you're launching basically with 120 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:17,180 Earth's momentum around the Sun and so 121 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:19,610 you've got to change that momentum into 122 00:05:26,050 --> 00:05:23,930 a much more elongated orbit so while the 123 00:05:27,970 --> 00:05:26,060 as you can see the red line and the 124 00:05:30,190 --> 00:05:27,980 green line are almost coincident at one 125 00:05:32,290 --> 00:05:30,200 point in terms of their perihelion the 126 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:32,300 closest approach to the Sun the aphelion 127 00:05:37,510 --> 00:05:34,880 is so much further away for church for 128 00:05:40,659 --> 00:05:37,520 comet 67p that you've got to add a lot 129 00:05:44,530 --> 00:05:40,669 of energy to get out of that right mmm 130 00:05:48,610 --> 00:05:44,540 so the really cool thing about rosetta 131 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:48,620 mission is after it has a met up with a 132 00:05:53,730 --> 00:05:51,290 comet it's going to stay with the comet 133 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:53,740 all the way through perihelion passage 134 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:56,210 so it's not an orbit around the comet 135 00:06:00,460 --> 00:05:58,160 it's just sort of tracking along in its 136 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:00,470 orbit yeah it's tracking along with it 137 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:02,570 it's doing a library orbit near the 138 00:06:07,330 --> 00:06:05,360 comet actually as I saw it described 139 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:07,340 once that it sits in front of the comet 140 00:06:10,510 --> 00:06:08,630 it's not actually orbiting around the 141 00:06:14,159 --> 00:06:10,520 comet is orbiting along with comments so 142 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:14,169 it's on the same path at the same speed 143 00:06:20,830 --> 00:06:17,600 and so you can see how difficult it is 144 00:06:23,020 --> 00:06:20,840 and if you want to do it inexpensively 145 00:06:25,270 --> 00:06:23,030 to you to do all this sort of stuff the 146 00:06:28,090 --> 00:06:25,280 amount of energy that it takes to match 147 00:06:29,980 --> 00:06:28,100 orbits okay so this is really cool we 148 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:29,990 have now matched up with a comet and I 149 00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:31,970 was going to go through some of the 150 00:06:37,930 --> 00:06:34,960 images that we had of the common 151 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:37,940 approaching it okay so this is the first 152 00:06:42,330 --> 00:06:40,000 image released this year March twenty 153 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:42,340 seventh and the main thing in this image 154 00:06:47,310 --> 00:06:46,000 is the globular cluster m12 7 okay so 155 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:47,320 this is I think it's in the 156 00:06:51,420 --> 00:06:49,810 constellation of UKISS that's m107 and 157 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:51,430 then what looks like just one of the 158 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:54,160 stars of m107 are the stars nearby m107 159 00:07:00,420 --> 00:06:56,860 that's actually the comet okay so that 160 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:00,430 circle is around the comet 67p I'm 161 00:07:05,340 --> 00:07:03,910 calling 67 PCG desperate for I'm glad 162 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:05,350 that circles there it makes it mailed 163 00:07:12,690 --> 00:07:07,840 lemak Rosetta easier to find absolutely 164 00:07:14,010 --> 00:07:12,700 impossible spot otherwise then the next 165 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:14,020 thing the next thing that was 166 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:16,030 interesting that they released was July 167 00:07:21,690 --> 00:07:19,510 4th on Independence Day in the US this 168 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:21,700 year they released these three images 169 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:24,370 here and these three images show you 170 00:07:29,550 --> 00:07:26,890 that it's more than just a dot it looks 171 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:29,560 like sort of an elongated dot okay and 172 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:31,210 you know you can't really see it it's 173 00:07:35,010 --> 00:07:33,310 all very pixelated everything but you're 174 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:35,020 starting to see that well this is kind 175 00:07:38,310 --> 00:07:36,190 of interesting it probably has that 176 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:38,320 potato shape that we seen for all the 177 00:07:43,650 --> 00:07:41,680 other comments right but they save the 178 00:07:48,659 --> 00:07:43,660 best for French Independence Day 179 00:07:51,150 --> 00:07:48,669 Bastille Day july 14 2014 the french 180 00:07:57,270 --> 00:07:51,160 annalise yeah you got well it is a 181 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:57,280 European mission right so on that's on 182 00:08:01,800 --> 00:07:58,930 bastille day they released this image 183 00:08:04,409 --> 00:08:01,810 and this immediately shows you that that 184 00:08:07,260 --> 00:08:04,419 dark line of shadow or commander showed 185 00:08:09,690 --> 00:08:07,270 you this looks like two objects it looks 186 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:09,700 like to snow balls hanging around each 187 00:08:14,219 --> 00:08:12,280 other not not one object it looks like 188 00:08:17,340 --> 00:08:14,229 two objects together which was really 189 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:17,350 cool and then everything really went 190 00:08:23,130 --> 00:08:20,410 crazy the next week this sequence of 191 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:23,140 images from July 23 to 27 hit the 192 00:08:27,450 --> 00:08:24,910 internet and and everybody started 193 00:08:31,020 --> 00:08:27,460 freaking out this wasn't just a single 194 00:08:35,010 --> 00:08:31,030 comet this was a contact binary comet 195 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:35,020 all right it was absolutely amazing this 196 00:08:39,810 --> 00:08:38,409 is what I call comet rubber ducky okay 197 00:08:42,010 --> 00:08:39,820 not just me a lot of people have called 198 00:08:44,050 --> 00:08:42,020 a comet rubber ducky 199 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:44,060 so you got us you got explain to us what 200 00:08:50,290 --> 00:08:46,910 a comment with a binary uh what was it 201 00:08:52,420 --> 00:08:50,300 you said binary contact binary okay Mary 202 00:08:54,810 --> 00:08:52,430 what is that thank you for asking that's 203 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:54,820 just where I was going to launch into 204 00:08:59,620 --> 00:08:57,650 well alright so the point is is that you 205 00:09:02,080 --> 00:08:59,630 know you it's obviously two separate 206 00:09:04,810 --> 00:09:02,090 pieces that have joined together at the 207 00:09:06,580 --> 00:09:04,820 neck of the duck and in order for these 208 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:06,590 things and now comets can be relatively 209 00:09:12,340 --> 00:09:09,950 fragile objects right comets can be just 210 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:12,350 sort of rubble piles or ice as their 211 00:09:19,230 --> 00:09:15,290 snowballs if they came together too hard 212 00:09:22,210 --> 00:09:19,240 they would smash and break up okay and 213 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:22,220 what the calculations were on this one 214 00:09:27,340 --> 00:09:24,650 was that for these two objects to stick 215 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:27,350 together they had to approach each other 216 00:09:31,570 --> 00:09:29,150 at a speed of like three meters per 217 00:09:33,460 --> 00:09:31,580 second now three meters per second is 218 00:09:35,290 --> 00:09:33,470 fast for you with me but in the solar 219 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:35,300 system that's actually quite slow 220 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:37,970 because Earth orbits around the Sun at 221 00:09:44,530 --> 00:09:41,810 30 kilometers per second so in order to 222 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:44,540 match up the these two objects had to be 223 00:09:49,210 --> 00:09:46,850 almost on exactly the same orbits and 224 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:49,220 very I think and then this sort of 225 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:52,190 gently smashing together and stay in 226 00:09:58,660 --> 00:09:55,970 contact with one another so it's really 227 00:10:00,460 --> 00:09:58,670 interesting we don't know how strongly 228 00:10:02,710 --> 00:10:00,470 they're held together they obviously are 229 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:02,720 held a low strongly enough to resist the 230 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:05,090 the rotation the rotational forces that 231 00:10:08,530 --> 00:10:06,800 might pull them apart right I was going 232 00:10:11,020 --> 00:10:08,540 to say that that must be acting against 233 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:11,030 it so it's hard to imagine this is just 234 00:10:16,210 --> 00:10:14,330 gravity doing the the sticking together 235 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:16,220 is it or do you think that's all it is 236 00:10:21,370 --> 00:10:19,370 well it's it's gravity plus there can be 237 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:21,380 some chemical bonds you know and what 238 00:10:24,010 --> 00:10:22,730 holds a snowball together right yeah 239 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:24,020 they kind of got squished together like 240 00:10:27,790 --> 00:10:26,090 a packing a snowball melted a little bit 241 00:10:29,590 --> 00:10:27,800 and kind of stuck together mean you 242 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:29,600 could consider this a solar system 243 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:31,910 exploration in making a snowman right 244 00:10:35,980 --> 00:10:34,070 you get a third one okay and then you 245 00:10:39,340 --> 00:10:35,990 get we can have a snowman comment but I 246 00:10:41,020 --> 00:10:39,350 think that's highly unlikely happen yeah 247 00:10:43,900 --> 00:10:41,030 that bring that together would be 248 00:10:46,510 --> 00:10:43,910 impressive ok so this got everyone's 249 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:46,520 attention on it I think from what I 250 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:48,730 heard some of these images were released 251 00:10:53,710 --> 00:10:52,730 prematurely the the the team the science 252 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:53,720 team behind it didn't want to release 253 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:54,770 them till they really know what they're 254 00:10:57,930 --> 00:10:55,730 looking at but 255 00:11:02,050 --> 00:10:57,940 it was just so cool somebody had some 256 00:11:03,579 --> 00:11:02,060 somebody had to put it out and so the 257 00:11:05,769 --> 00:11:03,589 next week actually need some earlier 258 00:11:07,689 --> 00:11:05,779 images from the osiris team that 259 00:11:09,790 --> 00:11:07,699 actually had even higher resolution and 260 00:11:12,910 --> 00:11:09,800 you can really see this this double 261 00:11:15,670 --> 00:11:12,920 contact binary so we're watching really 262 00:11:18,819 --> 00:11:15,680 closely as it was going into rendezvous 263 00:11:21,340 --> 00:11:18,829 which was unlocked august sixth so here 264 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:21,350 on july 24th based upon those date that 265 00:11:27,819 --> 00:11:24,560 data they made this animated gif this 266 00:11:29,230 --> 00:11:27,829 spinning 3d model okay so a rough model 267 00:11:32,170 --> 00:11:29,240 of it where you can see you've got a 268 00:11:34,540 --> 00:11:32,180 larger one that looks very much like the 269 00:11:36,850 --> 00:11:34,550 ones we got we've got a smaller circular 270 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:36,860 one again the two of them separately 271 00:11:41,319 --> 00:11:39,529 look very much like the other comets 272 00:11:45,069 --> 00:11:41,329 we've seen but then they get smashed 273 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:45,079 together by this neck feature all right 274 00:11:50,590 --> 00:11:47,570 august first we start to see all the 275 00:11:52,329 --> 00:11:50,600 detail in it all the crag eNOS that we 276 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:52,339 saw on all the previous comets starts to 277 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:54,410 come into view we get a little closer 278 00:12:01,180 --> 00:11:58,850 daily august 3rd I mean that almost 279 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:01,190 looks like a mushroom cloud no no no 280 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:03,860 yeah really it was like mommy mom I was 281 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:05,810 gonna rub ur duckies out the window now 282 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:09,529 I don't don't worry rubber ducky will 283 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:12,410 come back okay that one this one had a 284 00:12:16,329 --> 00:12:14,089 feeling like a mushroom Club but what I 285 00:12:19,059 --> 00:12:16,339 loved about this one is it showed you 286 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:19,069 the narrow features of the neck and how 287 00:12:23,860 --> 00:12:21,290 tenuous the connection between them 288 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:23,870 right yeah it's as if they smash 289 00:12:28,750 --> 00:12:25,850 together and rebounded and you formed 290 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:28,760 this bridge there and then just no 291 00:12:35,259 --> 00:12:31,970 material was left in between on that so 292 00:12:37,449 --> 00:12:35,269 that was really cool to me yeah because 293 00:12:40,180 --> 00:12:37,459 almost like it would kind of hit and 294 00:12:41,620 --> 00:12:40,190 then heat it up sort of merged and 295 00:12:43,210 --> 00:12:41,630 squish to melt a little bit and when I 296 00:12:44,879 --> 00:12:43,220 started to go apart it froze that's what 297 00:12:47,199 --> 00:12:44,889 I think happened Frank yeah it's okay 298 00:12:49,389 --> 00:12:47,209 prize later I just want to say I think 299 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:49,399 you won alright well that is a 300 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:52,250 reasonable reasonable hypothesis uh you 301 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:54,290 just have to calculate what the speeds 302 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:55,610 and the physical properties that would 303 00:12:59,860 --> 00:12:57,290 happen during that before you get your 304 00:13:03,160 --> 00:12:59,870 Nobel price though Emily Emily was she 305 00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:03,170 on the team no I'll tell you at the end 306 00:13:07,210 --> 00:13:05,360 of this thought I still to this easy 307 00:13:09,460 --> 00:13:07,220 asst to steal all the images these 308 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:09,470 images was from her blog okay 309 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:12,890 yes he's really she was really good so 310 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:14,810 in I mean I got a lot of things from a 311 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:16,850 lot of places and I was this like to try 312 00:13:19,330 --> 00:13:18,050 and assemble it for this talk it was 313 00:13:21,730 --> 00:13:19,340 like yeah we'll just go to Emily and 314 00:13:23,950 --> 00:13:21,740 she's got it she'll know it you'll have 315 00:13:25,510 --> 00:13:23,960 a deal she reprocessed a bunch of these 316 00:13:27,490 --> 00:13:25,520 images to clean them up and make them 317 00:13:30,910 --> 00:13:27,500 look better before posting on her blog 318 00:13:33,310 --> 00:13:30,920 so she added her added her name to the 319 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:33,320 credit list for actually the credit 320 00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:37,160 lists are monstrously huge for this one 321 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:40,160 of these some of these anyway so August 322 00:13:45,130 --> 00:13:43,130 fourth again you see some serious craggy 323 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:45,140 and bumpy features and stuff it's really 324 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:47,450 you know taking shape it's starting to 325 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:50,690 be a real object okay and then after 326 00:13:55,750 --> 00:13:52,760 August fourth on august sixth we had 327 00:13:59,080 --> 00:13:55,760 rendezvous and rendezvous was successful 328 00:14:01,240 --> 00:13:59,090 they did the insertion burn to slow down 329 00:14:02,380 --> 00:14:01,250 to get to the speed of the comic because 330 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:02,390 they've been catching up to the comment 331 00:14:06,370 --> 00:14:04,220 and then they slowed down and there and 332 00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:06,380 they're in this library orbit around it 333 00:14:11,950 --> 00:14:08,480 basically in front of it looking at it 334 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:11,960 with the cameras well after rendezvous 335 00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:13,970 they were so close that they were only 336 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:15,680 getting pieces of the comet they 337 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:18,350 couldn't show you the whole comet nobody 338 00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:19,910 camera had one in a field of view huh 339 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:22,310 right well you know you want to be that 340 00:14:26,620 --> 00:14:23,570 close to because you've got to scan 341 00:14:29,650 --> 00:14:26,630 places for where this Lander is going to 342 00:14:33,310 --> 00:14:29,660 look going to land right so they 343 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:33,320 released a mosaic like this okay of four 344 00:14:40,090 --> 00:14:36,320 different images and then they said to 345 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:40,100 image processors okay here are the four 346 00:14:45,130 --> 00:14:42,410 images that we took that mosaic over the 347 00:14:47,410 --> 00:14:45,140 whole thing how about if you go out and 348 00:14:50,980 --> 00:14:47,420 try and mosaic them together because you 349 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:50,990 know as the as the as the orbiter is 350 00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:53,510 moving around it the lighting is going 351 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:55,190 to change the Quetta the comments going 352 00:14:58,630 --> 00:14:57,170 to rotate a little bit so it was a 353 00:15:02,170 --> 00:14:58,640 significant amount of image processing 354 00:15:05,020 --> 00:15:02,180 to combine these guys together right and 355 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:05,030 so a gentleman named Daniel Maha check 356 00:15:10,270 --> 00:15:08,240 put together this one from the August 357 00:15:13,390 --> 00:15:10,280 thirty-first mosaic and that I think is 358 00:15:15,250 --> 00:15:13,400 really cool and although it looks kind 359 00:15:17,140 --> 00:15:15,260 of mean it certainly does look like a 360 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:17,150 rubber duck there don't you think yeah I 361 00:15:21,010 --> 00:15:19,610 guess so I guess while you're talking 362 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:21,020 about this Frank I want to energy I 363 00:15:23,530 --> 00:15:22,010 could comment from 364 00:15:25,690 --> 00:15:23,540 d Schmidt she's made a comment about 365 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:25,700 what you're saying she said despite how 366 00:15:30,460 --> 00:15:28,730 the photos look and it and being a 367 00:15:32,410 --> 00:15:30,470 snowball the comet is actually very dark 368 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:32,420 in color always surprising to learn how 369 00:15:38,740 --> 00:15:35,120 dark some things are like the moon is 370 00:15:40,930 --> 00:15:38,750 pretty much charcoal so that is correct 371 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:40,940 yeah thank you Judy a good good insight 372 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:42,410 that's true this is what you're looking 373 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:44,330 at of course is reflections from the Sun 374 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:47,600 but this is a pretty dark object yeah 375 00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:51,770 the standard thing is that the comet is 376 00:15:57,310 --> 00:15:55,040 as dark as the asphalt on the road okay 377 00:15:58,630 --> 00:15:57,320 and that because it's been traveling 378 00:16:02,800 --> 00:15:58,640 around in outer space for billions of 379 00:16:05,890 --> 00:16:02,810 years any particles that hit it you know 380 00:16:08,020 --> 00:16:05,900 cover up all the school quotes no you 381 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:08,030 don't see white snow on comets okay 382 00:16:13,060 --> 00:16:10,310 because the outer layers are the starry 383 00:16:15,250 --> 00:16:13,070 gyuki stuff the inner layers are white 384 00:16:17,050 --> 00:16:15,260 and bright and would be would be your 385 00:16:19,870 --> 00:16:17,060 snow like substances but the outer 386 00:16:23,170 --> 00:16:19,880 layers I've definitely been baked in the 387 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:23,180 solar heat all of the volatiles on the 388 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:25,370 surface have evaporated away leaving 389 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:27,700 behind this sort of tar like residue 390 00:16:33,220 --> 00:16:30,320 okay so they're sure there's your rubber 391 00:16:35,050 --> 00:16:33,230 duck okay but here's the question and 392 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:35,060 the question they're studying this month 393 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:37,850 is where on this rubber duck are they 394 00:16:46,990 --> 00:16:39,890 going to land okay where are they going 395 00:16:48,430 --> 00:16:47,000 to put that Lander to be the the problem 396 00:16:50,980 --> 00:16:48,440 is is that because it's got this 397 00:16:52,810 --> 00:16:50,990 irregular shape the orbit around it is 398 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:52,820 actually not that difficult you know 399 00:16:57,250 --> 00:16:55,190 it's just an irregular moment of inertia 400 00:16:59,290 --> 00:16:57,260 to work with but now you've got to try 401 00:17:01,270 --> 00:16:59,300 and land on this while it's rotating 402 00:17:03,340 --> 00:17:01,280 with this kind of irregular shape so 403 00:17:06,310 --> 00:17:03,350 that sort of the places that are 404 00:17:08,260 --> 00:17:06,320 possible to lab and so the plan was to 405 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:08,270 come up with five potential landing 406 00:17:14,970 --> 00:17:10,910 sites toward the end of August which 407 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:14,980 they did and here is a refined 3d model 408 00:17:21,210 --> 00:17:17,270 and with the five potential landing 409 00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:21,220 sites for the feel a lander a they 410 00:17:25,540 --> 00:17:23,600 obviously they hit big chose a lot more 411 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:25,550 because they got a B and C but then they 412 00:17:32,170 --> 00:17:29,210 have I and J yeah I don't know I haven't 413 00:17:34,450 --> 00:17:32,180 dismissed d through H seem to have 414 00:17:35,660 --> 00:17:34,460 disappeared make the cut yeah didn't 415 00:17:37,550 --> 00:17:35,670 make the cut alright so the 416 00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:37,560 the five potential landing sites well 417 00:17:42,410 --> 00:17:39,600 then they release some high-resolution 418 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:42,420 photographs of those landing sites so 419 00:17:48,590 --> 00:17:45,090 here's the ABC I and J landing sites on 420 00:17:52,610 --> 00:17:48,600 the scale and this is one kilometer on 421 00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:52,620 aside for each of these right so that's 422 00:17:58,610 --> 00:17:56,520 really interesting k um I actually look 423 00:18:00,980 --> 00:17:58,620 at these pictures and my favorite 424 00:18:04,010 --> 00:18:00,990 landing site might be site B because it 425 00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:04,020 looks much sort of like a lunar mari 426 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:05,940 very smooth yeah I was going to say the 427 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:07,890 same thing I predict that's what I think 428 00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:09,600 it's be B should be the one the other 429 00:18:14,650 --> 00:18:13,140 ones look too scary yeah but what 430 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:14,660 they're going to do is they're going to 431 00:18:20,990 --> 00:18:17,850 survey these five sites at a resolution 432 00:18:25,490 --> 00:18:21,000 of what they said like you know half a 433 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:25,500 meter per pixel which is amazing but 434 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:26,970 sensitive that close they will look at 435 00:18:31,340 --> 00:18:29,280 these sites in great detail and about 436 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:31,350 half a meter per pixel resolution and 437 00:18:36,830 --> 00:18:33,810 then before they choose their primary 438 00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:36,840 landing site and I'm told that their 439 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:38,940 primary landing site will be chosen in 440 00:18:42,530 --> 00:18:40,830 mid-september so we got a couple weeks 441 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:42,540 before we'll find out what the primary 442 00:18:46,430 --> 00:18:44,340 landing site is so let me ask you this 443 00:18:48,980 --> 00:18:46,440 frankly the spinning of the comment and 444 00:18:50,780 --> 00:18:48,990 the the rotation and the fact that they 445 00:18:54,020 --> 00:18:50,790 found out this thing is not a very 446 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:54,030 regular object does that substantially 447 00:18:58,130 --> 00:18:56,790 complicate the the orbiting are the 448 00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,140 landing equations that are going to be 449 00:19:02,330 --> 00:19:00,240 needed or the trajectories or are they 450 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:02,340 they concerned about that at all do you 451 00:19:08,090 --> 00:19:05,970 know well they very quickly when they 452 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:08,100 made the initial models of it from what 453 00:19:12,740 --> 00:19:10,050 I understand they recognize that they 454 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:12,750 couldn't really land on the neck okay on 455 00:19:17,570 --> 00:19:15,510 just because of the way the rotation of 456 00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:17,580 it trying to get into the neck might not 457 00:19:22,970 --> 00:19:20,700 be a really good spot ok so i guess if i 458 00:19:25,370 --> 00:19:22,980 go to the previous one you can see that 459 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:25,380 they've got three sites that are on the 460 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:28,290 top of the head and then they've got two 461 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:29,850 sites on what i would call the tail of 462 00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:32,430 the duck okay we're gonna lay those but 463 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:37,320 sightsee all right so landing on the 464 00:19:41,620 --> 00:19:39,090 duckies tail or landing on the duckies 465 00:19:44,180 --> 00:19:41,630 head seemed to be the favored sites of 466 00:19:46,850 --> 00:19:44,190 both in terms of the orbital mechanics 467 00:19:49,139 --> 00:19:46,860 of it and perhaps in terms of the 468 00:19:53,729 --> 00:19:49,149 smoothness of the site for for a landing 469 00:19:55,919 --> 00:19:53,739 right that is awesome ya need so here's 470 00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:55,929 a point where Itay amazing things about 471 00:20:02,039 --> 00:19:59,679 ms Emily lakdawala she perceived too 472 00:20:04,709 --> 00:20:02,049 many yes she writes a blog for the 473 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:04,719 Planetary Society and I just want to 474 00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:07,450 give her a tip of the hat not a wag of 475 00:20:11,549 --> 00:20:09,580 the finger a tip of the hat because so 476 00:20:13,019 --> 00:20:11,559 many it was easy just to go through a 477 00:20:15,899 --> 00:20:13,029 lot of her blog posts and pull out 478 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:15,909 images for this I will note that the 479 00:20:21,570 --> 00:20:19,809 landing for feel a will occur starting 480 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:21,580 on November 11th the orbital maneuver 481 00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:23,679 will start on remember 11th and it will 482 00:20:30,889 --> 00:20:26,559 land on november nineteenth so for 483 00:20:34,919 --> 00:20:30,899 thanksgiving we may be serving duck okay 484 00:20:38,669 --> 00:20:34,929 in rubber form rubber duck for 485 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:38,679 thanksgiving okay alright so that's 486 00:20:42,899 --> 00:20:40,450 great know an emily is outstanding 487 00:20:44,729 --> 00:20:42,909 resource for anybody who wants to keep 488 00:20:46,709 --> 00:20:44,739 abreast of the absolute latest for 489 00:20:48,899 --> 00:20:46,719 twitter feed is also a really a good 490 00:20:51,419 --> 00:20:48,909 source i follow it and I learn more from 491 00:20:54,169 --> 00:20:51,429 that about that small ways like Frank 492 00:20:58,409 --> 00:20:54,179 one of my first choices to go to alright 493 00:21:01,200 --> 00:20:58,419 seldomly that's a story number one I got 494 00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:01,210 three more ritual bit shorter this and 495 00:21:04,169 --> 00:21:02,769 then we actually and in these ones we 496 00:21:05,879 --> 00:21:04,179 actually get back to Hubble because 497 00:21:10,349 --> 00:21:05,889 there wasn't really a Hubble tie-in for 498 00:21:12,989 --> 00:21:10,359 comment rubber ducky there no okay so 499 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:12,999 our second story today is big bursts of 500 00:21:18,899 --> 00:21:16,570 star formation in distant dwarf galaxies 501 00:21:22,139 --> 00:21:18,909 now what we're really talking about here 502 00:21:25,019 --> 00:21:22,149 are star bursting galaxies okay galaxies 503 00:21:28,619 --> 00:21:25,029 that have these immense amounts of star 504 00:21:31,969 --> 00:21:28,629 formation and one of the prime examples 505 00:21:34,589 --> 00:21:31,979 2.2 is the antennae galaxies shown here 506 00:21:36,659 --> 00:21:34,599 you can see there are two heads and then 507 00:21:39,629 --> 00:21:36,669 these two long tails that go off from 508 00:21:42,539 --> 00:21:39,639 each other these two galaxies were 509 00:21:45,479 --> 00:21:42,549 determined about almost she was the 510 00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,489 1970s so that that's 40 years ago it was 511 00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:47,679 determined that these two galaxies have 512 00:21:53,489 --> 00:21:51,039 been on a collision okay and 74 years 513 00:21:56,399 --> 00:21:53,499 yes the collision lasts about a billion 514 00:21:58,829 --> 00:21:56,409 years but it was 40 years ago when the 515 00:22:00,659 --> 00:21:58,839 tomb ray brothers were actually able to 516 00:22:02,460 --> 00:22:00,669 deduce and show from computer 517 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:02,470 simulations very very 518 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:04,690 very similar computer simulations back 519 00:22:09,779 --> 00:22:07,030 then that the two galaxies were actually 520 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:09,789 in the fact of colliding and we believe 521 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:11,740 that the collision insights star 522 00:22:15,870 --> 00:22:13,750 formation and that star formation is 523 00:22:18,570 --> 00:22:15,880 greatly seen when we go to this Hubble 524 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:18,580 image of just the central part of it and 525 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:21,490 you can see all those bright pink 526 00:22:26,159 --> 00:22:23,710 regions which are star forming regions 527 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:26,169 and all those bright blue stars which 528 00:22:31,860 --> 00:22:29,470 are hot newborn massive stars so all 529 00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:31,870 those pink regions are areas where stars 530 00:22:36,270 --> 00:22:33,820 are currently being born within this 531 00:22:38,340 --> 00:22:36,280 collision right and they are they are 532 00:22:41,130 --> 00:22:38,350 regions that make the Orion Nebula look 533 00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,140 puny all right now the Orion Nebula is 534 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:43,120 one of our closest on our fate most 535 00:22:47,399 --> 00:22:45,130 favorite star forming regions it's got 536 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:47,409 like about four thousand stars forming 537 00:22:53,159 --> 00:22:51,010 within it these are super star clusters 538 00:22:55,649 --> 00:22:53,169 that are forming here with tens of 539 00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:55,659 thousands of stars and hunt and lots of 540 00:22:59,820 --> 00:22:57,429 lots and lots of stars in the inner 541 00:23:01,640 --> 00:22:59,830 formation so you know these are really 542 00:23:04,169 --> 00:23:01,650 these are big star forming regions 543 00:23:05,549 --> 00:23:04,179 there's a ton of star formation going on 544 00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:05,559 in here and that's what defines 545 00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:08,980 starburst okay are there any preference 546 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:10,390 the kinds of stars being born here or 547 00:23:14,669 --> 00:23:12,159 there are they a specific type of star 548 00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:14,679 or they just all kinds know we found 549 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:17,289 that when you form stars you tend to 550 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:20,770 form stars of all different masses you 551 00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:23,500 form your you form a few really big 552 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:27,030 massive stars and then a lot of faint 553 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:32,130 stars I think the average the average 554 00:23:36,810 --> 00:23:34,809 size of a star in a star-forming region 555 00:23:39,690 --> 00:23:36,820 is only a seven tenths of the size of 556 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:39,700 the Sun stars can go up to hundreds of 557 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:41,770 times the size of the Sun and down to 558 00:23:47,220 --> 00:23:43,840 about a tenth the size of the Sun but 559 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:47,230 the average mass is about seven tenths 560 00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:50,770 the size of a son so you for all the 561 00:23:54,450 --> 00:23:52,840 really big stars you can see here there 562 00:23:59,940 --> 00:23:54,460 are lots more small stars that of course 563 00:24:03,870 --> 00:23:59,950 you can't see so starburst we believe 564 00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:03,880 are induced by an event normal galaxies 565 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:05,710 just don't have this much star formation 566 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:07,929 going on here the event is the merging 567 00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:11,890 of two galaxies so we wanted to when 568 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:13,840 we've studied starbursts we want to 569 00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:15,490 actually study the star formation 570 00:24:17,869 --> 00:24:16,169 history of the 571 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,879 universe and these starburst and 572 00:24:21,379 --> 00:24:19,440 galaxies are the easiest ones to study 573 00:24:23,779 --> 00:24:21,389 because they got so much star formation 574 00:24:26,479 --> 00:24:23,789 going on in them and as we looked out 575 00:24:29,239 --> 00:24:26,489 into the distant universe we use these 576 00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:29,249 deep images from Hubble we've been able 577 00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:32,700 to study star bursting in the big 578 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:34,590 galaxies and even some of the 579 00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:37,200 medium-sized galaxies so as we look out 580 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:38,940 into the universe in the formation of 581 00:24:46,399 --> 00:24:42,090 stars and we find that the the peak of 582 00:24:49,789 --> 00:24:46,409 star formation was about 4 or 5 billion 583 00:24:52,999 --> 00:24:49,799 years after the Big Bang okay we sort of 584 00:24:54,619 --> 00:24:53,009 look in the redshift range 1 to 2 which 585 00:24:56,509 --> 00:24:54,629 is about 2 billion years after the Big 586 00:24:59,180 --> 00:24:56,519 Bang to about six or seven billion years 587 00:25:01,159 --> 00:24:59,190 after the Big Bang okay so that there 588 00:25:04,249 --> 00:25:01,169 was a period when most of the stars in 589 00:25:05,539 --> 00:25:04,259 the universe were born exactly okay so 590 00:25:07,999 --> 00:25:05,549 those sort of the peak of star formation 591 00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:08,009 in the universe and so we've looked at 592 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:10,049 the star bursting galaxies in those 593 00:25:16,009 --> 00:25:11,850 range but only the medium and large ones 594 00:25:17,629 --> 00:25:16,019 and with the wide field camera 3 and in 595 00:25:20,389 --> 00:25:17,639 particular the increased infrared 596 00:25:22,999 --> 00:25:20,399 sensitivity of whiffs III on Hubble 597 00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:23,009 we've been able to extend those studies 598 00:25:30,919 --> 00:25:26,820 to send sample the smaller galaxies and 599 00:25:36,499 --> 00:25:30,929 so this image here there are there are 600 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:36,509 six red circles around six of the small 601 00:25:42,979 --> 00:25:39,330 dwarf galaxies that they found to be 602 00:25:46,729 --> 00:25:42,989 star bursting ok and they were able to 603 00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,739 study these dwarf galaxies in the having 604 00:25:50,690 --> 00:25:48,480 starburst between two and six billion 605 00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:50,700 years out there and it's really 606 00:25:55,090 --> 00:25:53,340 important because dwarf galaxies are the 607 00:25:57,169 --> 00:25:55,100 most numerous galaxies in the universe 608 00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:57,179 just like I said that you know there are 609 00:26:01,340 --> 00:25:59,039 many more smaller stars and there are 610 00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,350 big stars there are also many more 611 00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:04,080 smaller galaxies than there are big 612 00:26:09,499 --> 00:26:06,600 galaxies so if these dwarf galaxies are 613 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:09,509 undergoing starbursts as well well then 614 00:26:13,729 --> 00:26:11,129 that can have a significant effect and 615 00:26:17,299 --> 00:26:13,739 it turns out that they have a really 616 00:26:19,999 --> 00:26:17,309 huge star formation that they can double 617 00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:20,009 the number of stars in them within only 618 00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:22,350 a hundred million or 150 million years 619 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:25,559 so why is that so why is that so 620 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:27,090 significant if door because dwarf 621 00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:30,010 galaxies are the most common type of gal 622 00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:31,990 so the most numerous of the galaxies 623 00:26:35,790 --> 00:26:34,120 exactly there's no ser if they're 624 00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:35,800 showing a lot of rapid star formation 625 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:37,720 then there's a lot more stars than we 626 00:26:42,450 --> 00:26:40,870 think there are maybe exactly if only 627 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:42,460 you know ten percent of your population 628 00:26:47,310 --> 00:26:45,760 is doing something right well then that 629 00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:47,320 sort of says well you know it's it's 630 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:50,380 it's a good sub group but it might not 631 00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:52,210 be able to dominate what's really going 632 00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:54,190 on but if ninety percent of your 633 00:26:58,580 --> 00:26:55,990 population is doing something well this 634 00:27:03,180 --> 00:26:58,590 by sheer number they can dominate I 635 00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:03,190 guess we could relate it to the post-war 636 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:05,470 generation right the baby boomers how 637 00:27:08,940 --> 00:27:07,150 they've had so much population here in 638 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:08,950 the US and they've been able to dominate 639 00:27:14,430 --> 00:27:10,450 culture as they go through their lives 640 00:27:16,890 --> 00:27:14,440 and cetera so you want the the most 641 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:16,900 massive population find out what they're 642 00:27:22,170 --> 00:27:19,870 doing then you'll get a better handle on 643 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:22,180 what's over all happening right well I 644 00:27:26,190 --> 00:27:24,070 don't I don't we I don't want you to put 645 00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:26,200 you on the spot here and so I mean if 646 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:27,400 you don't know the answer that's okay 647 00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:31,330 but do you have a sense of how much how 648 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:34,060 many in terms of percent is it like ten 649 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:35,710 percent more stars twenty percent more 650 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,390 stars than we thought fifty percent more 651 00:27:42,210 --> 00:27:40,000 stars I'll get to that I get to that 652 00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:42,220 number at the end of all I don't want to 653 00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:43,870 steal your punchlines I'm not going to 654 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:45,310 give you my punchline until a doll and 655 00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:47,650 ready for enough fair enough we're very 656 00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,440 close to this okay so these are in the 657 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:52,720 range what we call extreme emission-line 658 00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:56,530 galaxies ee lg's okay hey we're 659 00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:58,720 measuring their star formation by 660 00:28:03,450 --> 00:28:00,880 looking at the hydrogen alpha line okay 661 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:03,460 so the amount of hydrogen emission 662 00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:05,110 that's coming on there which we found to 663 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:07,620 be a very good measure of star formation 664 00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:10,690 and that they are producing stars you 665 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:13,990 know 100 times more rapidly than normal 666 00:28:19,710 --> 00:28:16,960 galaxies and even several times more 667 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:19,720 rapidly than our normal star bursts in 668 00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:22,480 the large galaxies so when you add up 669 00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:25,300 all of these uh dwarf galaxies and the 670 00:28:30,030 --> 00:28:28,030 extreme star bursting that they're going 671 00:28:31,170 --> 00:28:30,040 through they calculate well depending 672 00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:31,180 them on how you do things they could 673 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:35,080 cover about 13 to thirty four percent of 674 00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,590 the star formation going on between two 675 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:40,620 and six billion years after the Big Bang 676 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:43,360 so they can account for up to one 677 00:28:48,539 --> 00:28:45,130 third of all the star formation 678 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:48,549 happening at that time previously we 679 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:49,690 didn't have any information on the 680 00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:52,480 divorce and you know should the divorce 681 00:28:57,570 --> 00:28:55,809 be there awfully awfully small you know 682 00:28:59,910 --> 00:28:57,580 they're down to what 1% the size of a 683 00:29:02,520 --> 00:28:59,920 big galaxy should they really be 684 00:29:05,549 --> 00:29:02,530 considered well the answer is yes it's 685 00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:05,559 very surprising just how much they make 686 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:08,950 might contribute okay so let me just go 687 00:29:13,140 --> 00:29:10,960 back for a minute here sure we've all 688 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:13,150 seen this pie chart of the composition 689 00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:15,370 of the universe where all the matter 690 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:16,840 that we know in the universe is like 691 00:29:20,909 --> 00:29:19,120 four or five percent dark matter makes 692 00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:20,919 up twenty or some odd twenty-five 693 00:29:25,650 --> 00:29:22,780 percent and dark energy makes up the 694 00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:25,660 remaining seventy percent what effect is 695 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:28,360 this going to do if any on the five 696 00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:33,130 percent slice of pie okay so that five 697 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:34,660 percent slice of pie will stay the same 698 00:29:39,090 --> 00:29:36,730 okay doesn't it's not changing the 699 00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:39,100 amount of baryonic matter in the 700 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:40,240 universe the normal matter in the 701 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:43,210 universe right so let's conserve then I 702 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:45,460 guess I'll data that that that that does 703 00:29:52,110 --> 00:29:47,890 not affect here what this does have is 704 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:52,120 where do the stars that we see today get 705 00:29:58,140 --> 00:29:55,510 born are they born in large galaxies are 706 00:30:00,990 --> 00:29:58,150 they born in medium galaxies or are they 707 00:30:02,580 --> 00:30:01,000 born in star and small galaxies what 708 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:02,590 this result is saying is that up to a 709 00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:05,830 third of them may be born in small 710 00:30:10,289 --> 00:30:08,470 galaxies good all right and I think I 711 00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:10,299 wanted to make because I I don't I don't 712 00:30:13,770 --> 00:30:12,190 want people to think we've discovered a 713 00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:13,780 whole bunch of stars that we didn't know 714 00:30:17,850 --> 00:30:16,270 we're there before it's it's all there 715 00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:17,860 just we're getting a better idea of 716 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:21,040 where and how these stars are forming at 717 00:30:26,370 --> 00:30:23,770 lynn in the history of universe exactly 718 00:30:28,289 --> 00:30:26,380 we know that we can under we can 719 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,299 approximate the stellar content of the 720 00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,640 universe today and we're trying to 721 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:32,799 figure out how when did they form and 722 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:35,440 where did they form we figured out when 723 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:37,809 they formed it appears but now we're 724 00:30:41,159 --> 00:30:39,130 seeing that they actually more of them 725 00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:41,169 form in small galaxies than we had 726 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:44,169 previously suspected awesome all right 727 00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:47,410 thank you Frank that's cool that is that 728 00:30:53,970 --> 00:30:49,480 story and we're going to move on to 729 00:30:57,149 --> 00:30:53,980 another star bursting object we're going 730 00:30:58,739 --> 00:30:57,159 to talk about a baby elliptical 731 00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:58,749 we've talked about rubber duckies now 732 00:31:04,889 --> 00:30:59,919 we're gonna go cute little baby 733 00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:04,899 elliptical galaxy here so uh when we 734 00:31:09,539 --> 00:31:06,220 think I love to play so there was such a 735 00:31:11,999 --> 00:31:09,549 thing to be honest we've never seen one 736 00:31:14,219 --> 00:31:12,009 before that's the point of this story ok 737 00:31:16,499 --> 00:31:14,229 when you think of ellipticals you don't 738 00:31:18,089 --> 00:31:16,509 think of cute little objects gay maybe 739 00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:18,099 gig there are some dwarf ellipticals 740 00:31:23,849 --> 00:31:20,950 that are small and just galaxies in the 741 00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:23,859 university's right ok so this image here 742 00:31:30,269 --> 00:31:26,799 is of the Perseus cluster of galaxies 743 00:31:32,369 --> 00:31:30,279 all right and because it's far away 744 00:31:34,919 --> 00:31:32,379 right most of the galaxies here are 745 00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:34,929 roughly the same distance so you can 746 00:31:40,109 --> 00:31:38,139 actually compare sizes one to another 747 00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,119 and you can see that the largest ones 748 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:42,159 here are these elliptical galaxies near 749 00:31:46,169 --> 00:31:44,769 the center you can pick out a few spiral 750 00:31:48,869 --> 00:31:46,179 galaxies in here and they're all 751 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:48,879 considerably smaller so you've got these 752 00:31:53,639 --> 00:31:52,210 giant elliptical galaxies ok I'm sorry 753 00:31:56,729 --> 00:31:53,649 nice thing how far away this cluster was 754 00:31:58,409 --> 00:31:56,739 i did not i actually just wanted to use 755 00:32:02,219 --> 00:31:58,419 this as an example of giant ellipticals 756 00:32:04,109 --> 00:32:02,229 ok ok veral rocks they're all about the 757 00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:04,119 same all the same way very far away 758 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:05,320 there are hundreds of millions of light 759 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:07,690 years away how about that yeah ok all 760 00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:11,080 right and so we got these giant 761 00:32:14,849 --> 00:32:12,940 ellipticals and we believe that dense 762 00:32:17,879 --> 00:32:14,859 they existed they we find them a lot of 763 00:32:20,909 --> 00:32:17,889 the cores of clusters that they accrete 764 00:32:22,739 --> 00:32:20,919 their their mass by merging ok I showed 765 00:32:24,570 --> 00:32:22,749 you one an image of merging previously 766 00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:24,580 but at the center of a cluster of 767 00:32:28,379 --> 00:32:26,200 galaxies you would naturally get more 768 00:32:31,499 --> 00:32:28,389 merging and that was where you find 769 00:32:33,450 --> 00:32:31,509 these giant ellipticals but so we can 770 00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:33,460 see how they grow but we wanted to know 771 00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:36,159 how do these giant elliptical start 772 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:37,960 these these galaxies that become the 773 00:32:42,899 --> 00:32:40,210 these big galaxies how do they really 774 00:32:46,139 --> 00:32:42,909 start and we can look back out and out 775 00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:46,149 into these deep images all right we can 776 00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:49,629 take a look at this is a galaxy in the 777 00:32:54,239 --> 00:32:51,220 coma cluster Nalepa GALEX in the coma 778 00:32:57,629 --> 00:32:54,249 cluster and so they have these dense 779 00:33:00,029 --> 00:32:57,639 cores at their Center and we believe 780 00:33:02,249 --> 00:33:00,039 that these must form relatively early on 781 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:02,259 in the universe ok because you got very 782 00:33:08,009 --> 00:33:05,049 old stars in here and we can account for 783 00:33:09,299 --> 00:33:08,019 growth by emerging and we can look out 784 00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:09,309 into the universe and trace them back 785 00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:10,360 but 786 00:33:15,390 --> 00:33:12,100 what we really wanted to find is that 787 00:33:17,820 --> 00:33:15,400 formation of that core all right and we 788 00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:17,830 hadn't been able to see that yet okay we 789 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:19,480 wanted to find the formation of that 790 00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:21,490 that that initial core which probably 791 00:33:27,290 --> 00:33:25,240 grew very very very fast well we did one 792 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:27,300 of these deep images of the universe 793 00:33:35,310 --> 00:33:31,810 searching for this and again using the 794 00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:35,320 infrared capabilities of with c3 just 795 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:36,820 letting you know that the infrared is is 796 00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:39,970 is proven to be extremely useful on with 797 00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:42,670 c3 they identify this object here this 798 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:46,150 orangish object here as pot as being a 799 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:48,880 really good candidate for being the core 800 00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:51,850 of what would become a future elliptical 801 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:54,460 galaxy now what are the special 802 00:33:58,620 --> 00:33:56,230 characteristics of this object that make 803 00:34:01,500 --> 00:33:58,630 it so make it a candidate well it's 804 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:01,510 really tiny it's about 6,000 light-years 805 00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:05,200 across whereas a galaxy like our Milky 806 00:34:10,530 --> 00:34:07,420 Way is a hundred thousand light-years 807 00:34:12,770 --> 00:34:10,540 across six thousand verses a hundred 808 00:34:16,170 --> 00:34:12,780 thousand so this is smaller even than 809 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:16,180 the Bulge of our Milky Way galaxy the 810 00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:18,760 core of a large galaxy it's smaller than 811 00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:25,270 that but already this object has as many 812 00:34:31,610 --> 00:34:28,630 stars in it as are in our entire Milky 813 00:34:35,390 --> 00:34:31,620 Way galaxy so it's a ton of stars 814 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:35,400 compressed down to a very small region 815 00:34:43,770 --> 00:34:38,530 furthermore this object is seen at a 816 00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:43,780 redshift of 2.3 which places it at three 817 00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:45,550 billion years after the Big Bang or 818 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:49,870 eleven build 11 billion years ago so 819 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:52,600 this is an object that happened very 820 00:34:59,730 --> 00:34:54,910 early in the universe formed a ton of 821 00:35:02,760 --> 00:34:59,740 stars into a very small region they 822 00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:02,770 measured and the able to measure the 823 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:05,080 star-formation rate going on in here and 824 00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:07,090 again intensely high another star 825 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:09,100 bursting thing and looking at the 826 00:35:13,530 --> 00:35:11,290 history of it trying to gauge the ages 827 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:13,540 of things so that they could try and 828 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:15,370 interpolate the history of it they 829 00:35:19,470 --> 00:35:17,050 figured probably had been going on for 830 00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:19,480 about a billion years so you're talking 831 00:35:23,859 --> 00:35:22,480 tense star-formation rate for about a 832 00:35:26,620 --> 00:35:23,869 billion years 833 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:26,630 now it wasn't just Hubble that was 834 00:35:31,539 --> 00:35:28,970 involved in this study that 835 00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:31,549 star-formation rate from Hubble would 836 00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,470 have actually been about one-sixth of 837 00:35:40,569 --> 00:35:35,599 the star-formation rate I just quoted to 838 00:35:42,910 --> 00:35:40,579 you instead they used observations from 839 00:35:45,730 --> 00:35:42,920 the Spitzer Space Telescope and from 840 00:35:47,339 --> 00:35:45,740 Herschel Space Telescope to look deeper 841 00:35:50,769 --> 00:35:47,349 into the infrared than Hubble can see 842 00:35:53,259 --> 00:35:50,779 and find more information and the deeper 843 00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:53,269 infrared wavelengths that showed that 844 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:54,440 the star-formation rate was actually 845 00:35:59,380 --> 00:35:57,170 higher than we would deduce from just 846 00:36:02,890 --> 00:35:59,390 Hubble's observations actually about six 847 00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:02,900 times higher all right so by having this 848 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:05,390 incredibly high star-formation rate and 849 00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:08,240 not being able to see it with Hubble the 850 00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:10,430 implication of that is that there's a 851 00:36:18,730 --> 00:36:14,420 lot of dust obscuring this galaxy okay 852 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:18,740 or this core of a galaxy so the the 853 00:36:24,249 --> 00:36:22,490 postulations conclusion really is that 854 00:36:28,479 --> 00:36:24,259 the reason we haven't seen these before 855 00:36:30,609 --> 00:36:28,489 is that we haven't that they are highly 856 00:36:32,259 --> 00:36:30,619 obscured with lots of dust there's 857 00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,269 tremendous amount of star formation 858 00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:35,119 kicking up lots of dust or within this 859 00:36:39,729 --> 00:36:37,220 galaxy they're heavily reddened and 860 00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:39,739 obscured by this dust and so we're not 861 00:36:44,170 --> 00:36:41,569 going to see them very well with visible 862 00:36:45,609 --> 00:36:44,180 or with near-infrared light we need a 863 00:36:47,019 --> 00:36:45,619 little bit longer infrared light to be 864 00:36:49,390 --> 00:36:47,029 able to penetrate through some of that 865 00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:49,400 dust and be able to find more of these 866 00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:52,430 cores of elliptical galaxies which James 867 00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:53,989 Webb will be able to do pretty well oh 868 00:36:58,539 --> 00:36:56,150 you go straight to the punch line there 869 00:37:01,479 --> 00:36:58,549 yeah we go that's that's the conclusion 870 00:37:03,849 --> 00:37:01,489 that we have to jump to right no simply 871 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:03,859 because a we're going to need the longer 872 00:37:08,859 --> 00:37:06,880 wavelengths james j ust will have the 873 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:08,869 infrared wavelengths it will have the 874 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:10,970 resolution of Hubble it will be able to 875 00:37:17,380 --> 00:37:14,690 see objects like this are much much more 876 00:37:20,769 --> 00:37:17,390 easily than either Hubble or Spitzer or 877 00:37:23,769 --> 00:37:20,779 Herschel ok so we got it we got an 878 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:23,779 elliptical here three billion years 879 00:37:28,059 --> 00:37:25,730 after the after the Big Bang it's been 880 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:28,069 burning that's been forming stars for 881 00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:30,650 about a billion years yep give us some 882 00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:33,049 context compare that with our Milky Way 883 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:35,920 how old is our Milky Way galaxy and how 884 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:39,310 let's see the the basic core of our 885 00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:43,060 Milky Way galaxy the basic dis / / Milky 886 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:45,040 Way galaxy we believe is about 9 or 10 887 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:48,250 billion years old so about a billion to 888 00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:50,290 two billion years after the core of this 889 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,660 elliptical galaxies formed would be when 890 00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:54,400 the basic structure of our Milky Way 891 00:37:59,100 --> 00:37:57,040 formed but we wait a mountain elkeson ah 892 00:38:01,500 --> 00:37:59,110 so we've got a galaxy that's very old 893 00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:01,510 and we're still a spiral I thought 894 00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:04,360 ellipticals were among the oldest and 895 00:38:08,850 --> 00:38:06,550 they were among the they were the result 896 00:38:11,370 --> 00:38:08,860 of a lot of galaxy collisions that 897 00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:11,380 ultimately did not have stars forming in 898 00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:12,820 them and you've shown us an elliptical 899 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:14,860 that does have stars forming in them so 900 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:16,690 the processes can't be the same right 901 00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,050 this this elliptical wasn't formed like 902 00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:22,480 most elliptical well this elliptical was 903 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:24,430 formed very early it started its 904 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:28,570 formation very early and had uh and and 905 00:38:34,260 --> 00:38:30,850 and could not have formed in a low 906 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:34,270 density quiescent way okay and if a 907 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:36,730 galaxy forms quietly you know and things 908 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:39,400 slowly drift on to collapse onto it 909 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:42,570 right the angular momentum of the 910 00:38:48,060 --> 00:38:45,010 collapse is going to naturally produce a 911 00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:48,070 disk all right so spirals form in a 912 00:38:53,970 --> 00:38:51,280 relatively quiet fashion okay if you 913 00:38:55,830 --> 00:38:53,980 form in a very dense neighborhood when 914 00:38:58,140 --> 00:38:55,840 you get lots of small sub clumps that 915 00:39:00,060 --> 00:38:58,150 gather together and smash together like 916 00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:00,070 the early universe right the earlier 917 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:03,220 universe which was was denser right then 918 00:39:07,590 --> 00:39:05,410 you're going to naturally get a more 919 00:39:10,530 --> 00:39:07,600 randomization of your orbits and you'll 920 00:39:12,810 --> 00:39:10,540 end up with elliptical shapes awesome 921 00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:12,820 all right thank you ya got that makes I 922 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:15,000 understand that's cool thanks okay so 923 00:39:19,170 --> 00:39:17,290 that the main question that we want to 924 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:19,180 be able to answer is just how many of 925 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:22,450 these exist how prevalent are these can 926 00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:24,490 we get lots of baby elliptical galaxies 927 00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:29,590 and how can we really study this as a 928 00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:31,540 group because if you have one object 929 00:39:36,090 --> 00:39:34,150 okay that's great that's a nice tick 930 00:39:38,190 --> 00:39:36,100 mark you can I care but can you 931 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:38,200 extrapolate from that into the 932 00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:41,110 characteristics or group no you want to 933 00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:42,700 be able to get a group of these and that 934 00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:44,230 is something that we will definitely 935 00:39:46,730 --> 00:39:45,820 study with the James Webb Space 936 00:39:49,340 --> 00:39:46,740 Telescope 937 00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:49,350 okay all right all right let me just 938 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:50,670 before we leave this topic judy has 939 00:39:53,570 --> 00:39:52,410 another question and I just wanted since 940 00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:53,580 it's relevant I'll bring it up Judy 941 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:54,960 Schmidt that does this bring us any 942 00:39:59,090 --> 00:39:56,730 closer to understanding the origins of 943 00:40:00,680 --> 00:39:59,100 globular clusters I meant this question 944 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:00,690 in reference to the dwarf galaxy study 945 00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:04,920 so so in terms of the understanding of 946 00:40:12,350 --> 00:40:09,420 globular clusters that's a special topic 947 00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:12,360 ok because globular clusters can have 948 00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:14,790 hundreds of thousands to even millions 949 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:19,740 of stars and we know that the globular 950 00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:22,050 clusters in our Milky Way galaxy are all 951 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:25,260 very old general generally very very old 952 00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:27,930 and that there was a special formation 953 00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:29,700 process for these globular clusters 954 00:40:35,450 --> 00:40:33,030 about 12 billion years ago all right so 955 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:35,460 even a little earlier than this galaxy 956 00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:39,090 that we see here and we've also found 957 00:40:45,170 --> 00:40:42,240 that we believe that that when you see 958 00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:45,180 evidence of mergers you also see a 959 00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:48,630 higher number of globular clusters so 960 00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:51,510 that globular clusters seem to also be 961 00:40:58,220 --> 00:40:55,500 formed during mergers so the merging 962 00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:58,230 sequences can obviously incite the kind 963 00:41:04,340 --> 00:41:01,260 of the kind of conditions that form 964 00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:04,350 globular clusters so the formation of a 965 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:05,880 globular cluster seems to be an extreme 966 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:08,490 version of star cluster formation and 967 00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:10,890 we're not exactly sure what the 968 00:41:18,650 --> 00:41:13,080 characteristics are of that it's still 969 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:18,660 actively understudy and this this this 970 00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:21,030 shows us is on a much larger scale in 971 00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:23,160 terms of the number of stars here so it 972 00:41:28,370 --> 00:41:25,740 gives us some implication in terms of 973 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:28,380 when the galaxy start forming but the 974 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,850 globular clusters that are small parts 975 00:41:34,609 --> 00:41:32,400 of those it doesn't quite tell us 976 00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:34,619 anything about that okay Causton thank 977 00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:38,520 you Judy all right so our final topic 978 00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:43,380 for today a Space Oddity all right and 979 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:45,990 I'm going to start with a image that you 980 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:47,970 may have seen before actually I hope you 981 00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:50,310 have seen before it's a cool image of a 982 00:41:57,609 --> 00:41:54,990 galaxy cluster called a bill 68 and a 983 00:41:59,960 --> 00:41:57,619 bell 68 is one of those gravitationally 984 00:42:01,820 --> 00:41:59,970 gravitational lensing clusters 985 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:01,830 alright if you know will that know what 986 00:42:08,270 --> 00:42:05,010 that means Einstein's theory of general 987 00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:08,280 relativity tells us that mass warps 988 00:42:12,770 --> 00:42:10,680 space actually that's my favorite three 989 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:12,780 word summary of general relativity mass 990 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:16,800 warps space okay that's that's all you 991 00:42:22,190 --> 00:42:18,410 need to know about general relativity 992 00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:22,200 but in this case there is so much mass 993 00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:25,020 here in this cluster of galaxies that it 994 00:42:30,740 --> 00:42:27,630 warps space so much that the light 995 00:42:34,430 --> 00:42:30,750 passing through that space changes in 996 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:34,440 diverges okay it acts like a lens and it 997 00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:36,780 redirects the light from galaxies that 998 00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:40,920 on the far side this cluster and there's 999 00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,200 a really cool effect of that happens you 1000 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:45,359 can see they're a bunch of streaky 1001 00:42:50,030 --> 00:42:47,970 things around this cluster long thin 1002 00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:50,040 things that these are galaxies that are 1003 00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:51,480 behind the cluster whose light has been 1004 00:42:55,609 --> 00:42:53,730 stretched out into these long streaky 1005 00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:55,619 things by the gravitational lensing of 1006 00:43:02,359 --> 00:43:00,240 the cluster but there's also this object 1007 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:02,369 right here that I put a box around okay 1008 00:43:12,849 --> 00:43:06,930 um and if we blow that guy up uh you can 1009 00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:15,920 matter of fact it doesn't belong in a 1010 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:18,630 galaxy cluster it looks like it belongs 1011 00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:22,530 in a 1970s video game yeah I knew you're 1012 00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:29,520 going there definitely space invaders so 1013 00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:32,270 this week all the space invader galaxy 1014 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:35,460 but of course it's not a space invader 1015 00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:37,770 galaxy this is not it's true shape it's 1016 00:43:42,109 --> 00:43:39,839 been gravitationally lens you can see 1017 00:43:44,420 --> 00:43:42,119 the two yellow dots that form the eyes 1018 00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:44,430 of the space invader right well that's 1019 00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,220 the same yellow dot but traveling to 1020 00:43:51,020 --> 00:43:49,440 different paths through the mass of the 1021 00:43:53,420 --> 00:43:51,030 cluster through this warped space around 1022 00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,430 this cluster it's doubly image so that 1023 00:43:58,940 --> 00:43:54,960 you can see there's sort of a mirror 1024 00:44:01,550 --> 00:43:58,950 reflection left to right of the the 1025 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:01,560 features of this galaxy so the galaxies 1026 00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:03,210 features have been warped Stape and 1027 00:44:08,540 --> 00:44:05,550 changed and they've been mirrored so 1028 00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:08,550 that you see two mirror images of it and 1029 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:09,720 then you get this beautiful space 1030 00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:12,450 invader I don't know if you ever saw a 1031 00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:13,680 movie in nineteen 1032 00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:15,630 he's called crawl it was this really 1033 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:17,700 kind of cheesy fantasy movie looks like 1034 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:20,610 a bad guy in that had really big really 1035 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:23,010 big horns and got kinda looks like horn 1036 00:44:28,940 --> 00:44:24,090 sticking out of his head and everything 1037 00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:28,950 else I reminded me of that too okay well 1038 00:44:35,780 --> 00:44:31,740 you could definitely use this as a bad 1039 00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,790 guy to moving but a bell 68 has more 1040 00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:37,920 interesting features than this ad listen 1041 00:44:42,260 --> 00:44:39,960 there's another oddity in a bell 68 that 1042 00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:42,270 I wanted to point out so that one was 1043 00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:44,190 gravitational lensing but this one over 1044 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:47,070 here in the upper right you can see this 1045 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:49,170 galaxy here now let me pull that up and 1046 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:51,690 big alright and you can see this is a 1047 00:44:56,750 --> 00:44:54,090 galaxy where it looks like it's raining 1048 00:45:00,170 --> 00:44:56,760 right you've got all these sort of 1049 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:00,180 droplets coming down coming down from 1050 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:03,210 the galaxy and we're looking at that I 1051 00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:08,970 have to mute my phone anyways um look 1052 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:11,460 like it's raining down and then how that 1053 00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:13,610 looks really strange to that's an oddity 1054 00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:16,200 what's happening here is not 1055 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:19,680 gravitational lensing instead the galaxy 1056 00:45:23,630 --> 00:45:21,450 is moving through the intracluster gas 1057 00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:23,640 there's lots of gas in between these 1058 00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:26,880 galaxies and that gas is actually Ram 1059 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:30,240 pressure stripping material out of this 1060 00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:33,690 galaxy that's amazing yeah so what looks 1061 00:45:39,110 --> 00:45:35,790 like teardrops falling from this galaxy 1062 00:45:41,330 --> 00:45:39,120 this crying galaxy is actually material 1063 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:41,340 just being stripped so as you're moving 1064 00:45:46,460 --> 00:45:43,890 through this dense intracluster medium 1065 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:46,470 some of the gas is being stripped all 1066 00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:47,850 right and we're getting star formation 1067 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:50,550 in that strip gas forming these 1068 00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:53,850 wonderful wonderful little raindrops 1069 00:45:57,890 --> 00:45:55,500 coming out of the galaxy or tears 1070 00:46:03,080 --> 00:45:57,900 flowing down from the galaxy it's a sad 1071 00:46:05,090 --> 00:46:03,090 GALEX so this is a really cool image 1072 00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:05,100 here in a bell 68 in that you get to see 1073 00:46:14,350 --> 00:46:09,750 both a gravitational lensing oddity as 1074 00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:14,360 well as a physics-based oddity okay so 1075 00:46:21,260 --> 00:46:17,880 with Hubble we're doing a study looking 1076 00:46:25,810 --> 00:46:21,270 at gravitational lensing clusters and in 1077 00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,820 one of the clusters they saw this and 1078 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:27,599 here you can see this 1079 00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:28,710 is a cluster that's producing 1080 00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:29,849 gravitational lensing if you look 1081 00:46:33,019 --> 00:46:31,710 carefully you can see some streaks and 1082 00:46:37,009 --> 00:46:33,029 arching especially see this almost 1083 00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:37,019 circular grouping of streaks and arcs 1084 00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:39,089 around the central center of the cluster 1085 00:46:42,829 --> 00:46:41,400 and you say wow that's a lot of 1086 00:46:46,339 --> 00:46:42,839 gravitational lensing going on here 1087 00:46:49,759 --> 00:46:46,349 right yes so when you look in the center 1088 00:46:51,710 --> 00:46:49,769 and you see these blue crazy little are 1089 00:46:52,819 --> 00:46:51,720 key you know things you immediately 1090 00:46:56,589 --> 00:46:52,829 think well that's got to be 1091 00:46:59,569 --> 00:46:56,599 gravitational lensing right it's not 1092 00:47:01,640 --> 00:46:59,579 they did a study with another telescope 1093 00:47:03,859 --> 00:47:01,650 and within the radio telescope to look 1094 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:03,869 forward to try and look at the the 1095 00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:05,970 details of it and they proved that it's 1096 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:08,460 not gravitational lensing which makes 1097 00:47:14,359 --> 00:47:12,089 you go whoa okay now what are we going 1098 00:47:17,329 --> 00:47:14,369 to do this because where are you going 1099 00:47:22,299 --> 00:47:17,339 to get these bright blue sort of spiral 1100 00:47:25,789 --> 00:47:22,309 shapes really long elongated knots of 1101 00:47:27,289 --> 00:47:25,799 what looked like bright stars here okay 1102 00:47:29,630 --> 00:47:27,299 so let's just look at it 1103 00:47:31,729 --> 00:47:29,640 phenomenologically first okay this thing 1104 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:31,739 is about a hundred thousand light years 1105 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:34,890 long alright that's stretching from side 1106 00:47:39,009 --> 00:47:36,690 to side all the way across the Milky Way 1107 00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:39,019 galaxy so this is a galactic scale 1108 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:43,440 streamer plus it's got some spirals 1109 00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:45,569 shape too it's got a little to a bit of 1110 00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:47,640 a coil shaped and it seems to be wrapped 1111 00:47:54,170 --> 00:47:50,609 in amongst these two colliding galaxies 1112 00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:54,180 so you've got a lot of this long thin 1113 00:47:58,729 --> 00:47:56,910 streamer with this spiraling shape 1114 00:48:01,549 --> 00:47:58,739 alright and then you've got these knots 1115 00:48:05,029 --> 00:48:01,559 along it and if you analyze those knots 1116 00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:05,039 they believe that these knots are star 1117 00:48:12,739 --> 00:48:09,049 clusters not just star clusters but 1118 00:48:14,450 --> 00:48:12,749 super star clusters like the big star 1119 00:48:21,019 --> 00:48:14,460 clusters that we saw in the antennae 1120 00:48:22,219 --> 00:48:21,029 galaxies so it's really kind of cool all 1121 00:48:24,739 --> 00:48:22,229 right that you've got this amazing 1122 00:48:26,479 --> 00:48:24,749 structure and they wanted to do an 1123 00:48:29,209 --> 00:48:26,489 analogy for it for the press release and 1124 00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:29,219 so they took the analogy well the 1125 00:48:34,459 --> 00:48:31,529 physical process behind this is what we 1126 00:48:37,999 --> 00:48:34,469 call the genes instability okay and the 1127 00:48:40,299 --> 00:48:38,009 genes instability governs when a a cloud 1128 00:48:41,420 --> 00:48:40,309 of gas becomes self-gravitating and 1129 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:41,430 color 1130 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:44,490 apps down to form stars or star clusters 1131 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:48,450 okay and so when you get a jeans mass of 1132 00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:50,130 material then it can become 1133 00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:52,740 self-gravitating and unstable to forming 1134 00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:57,569 stars and clusters right but that's kind 1135 00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:00,960 of in this long thin in this long thin 1136 00:49:05,809 --> 00:49:03,089 streamer you would have separate regions 1137 00:49:07,940 --> 00:49:05,819 that reach green jeans mass criticality 1138 00:49:09,799 --> 00:49:07,950 and and then would start to start to 1139 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:09,809 collapse and that's how you get these 1140 00:49:14,780 --> 00:49:13,290 knots along the streamer so the analogy 1141 00:49:17,299 --> 00:49:14,790 that theythey used in the press release 1142 00:49:20,780 --> 00:49:17,309 was with the water coming out of the 1143 00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:20,790 faucet in your kitchen sink if you have 1144 00:49:27,770 --> 00:49:24,390 a smooth very thin laminar flow leaving 1145 00:49:30,799 --> 00:49:27,780 your faucet at some point it's going to 1146 00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:30,809 collapse in upon itself and form water 1147 00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:33,599 droplets okay this is a well-known 1148 00:49:40,370 --> 00:49:37,319 physical effect and it has a similar 1149 00:49:42,530 --> 00:49:40,380 analogy of the physical effects as to 1150 00:49:46,099 --> 00:49:42,540 the formation of these clusters along 1151 00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:46,109 the long thin streamer of gas now I have 1152 00:49:49,819 --> 00:49:47,880 to be totally honest with you it's not 1153 00:49:52,099 --> 00:49:49,829 an exact analogy in terms of physics 1154 00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:52,109 because the water involves the 1155 00:49:56,539 --> 00:49:53,609 turbulence and within the water and the 1156 00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:56,549 Reynolds number as well as the surface 1157 00:50:01,870 --> 00:49:59,010 tension of the water also plays a very 1158 00:50:03,799 --> 00:50:01,880 important role and you've got a 1159 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:03,809 gravitational field that that's within 1160 00:50:08,510 --> 00:50:05,849 so it's not a perfect analogy here but 1161 00:50:10,690 --> 00:50:08,520 it's a useful visual analogue for you to 1162 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:10,700 understand that these physical processes 1163 00:50:19,450 --> 00:50:14,970 that happen in your kitchen sink can 1164 00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:19,460 also happen on scales of entire galaxies 1165 00:50:25,609 --> 00:50:24,000 and that's that's a lot of fun yeah was 1166 00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:25,619 I mean it was just a time when everybody 1167 00:50:28,910 --> 00:50:27,089 thought that everything happened up in 1168 00:50:31,010 --> 00:50:28,920 this guy was if the universe was very 1169 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:31,020 static place had never changed much and 1170 00:50:34,609 --> 00:50:32,970 with tell over the past 25 years with 1171 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:34,619 Hubble and even though you know so many 1172 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:35,970 other instruments we're learning that 1173 00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:38,730 how the universe is like completely on 1174 00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:41,250 just fire it's just doing all kinds of 1175 00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:44,040 things and as far from static so you and 1176 00:50:49,819 --> 00:50:46,470 you know and educationally it's a 1177 00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:49,829 fundamental lesson of science that what 1178 00:50:54,349 --> 00:50:52,319 happens here on earth happens elsewhere 1179 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:54,359 in the universe you know that's sort of 1180 00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:55,050 an assumption 1181 00:50:59,120 --> 00:50:57,240 we make in science but here's a skiff 1182 00:51:00,890 --> 00:50:59,130 this is the you know got to be the 1183 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:00,900 biggest scale change one of the biggest 1184 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:03,090 fail scale change possible going from 1185 00:51:07,550 --> 00:51:04,890 your kitchen sink all the way to the 1186 00:51:09,110 --> 00:51:07,560 scale of an entire galaxy using the same 1187 00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,120 sort of physics showing that they hate 1188 00:51:13,850 --> 00:51:11,040 the physics equations work here they 1189 00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:13,860 also work there that's uh that's that's 1190 00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,470 a nice perspective on the universe I 1191 00:51:19,490 --> 00:51:18,000 think it's amazing what did you say that 1192 00:51:23,930 --> 00:51:19,500 did you say with how far the way this 1193 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:23,940 was I didn't hot I got the press release 1194 00:51:29,870 --> 00:51:26,850 in front of me here zoop zoop zoop zoop 1195 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:29,880 zoop zoop i mean it's just not that 1196 00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:31,050 critical just trying to get a sense of 1197 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:33,240 how far back you know after the Big Bang 1198 00:51:37,820 --> 00:51:36,210 this was so yeah it's not that far it's 1199 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:37,830 not these aren't high redshift clusters 1200 00:51:42,770 --> 00:51:40,250 i will say i would say they're 1201 00:51:44,930 --> 00:51:42,780 definitely less than richest of a half 1202 00:51:45,980 --> 00:51:44,940 so there may be a couple built this is 1203 00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:45,990 probably a couple billion light-years 1204 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:47,880 out there it's not to me it's not gonna 1205 00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:49,410 be 10 billion light years at maybe two 1206 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:51,240 three billion light-years out there all 1207 00:51:54,370 --> 00:51:52,410 right I was just curious yeah it was 1208 00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:54,380 because the universe was a lot different 1209 00:52:00,650 --> 00:51:57,900 at high redshift than it is then in the 1210 00:52:02,780 --> 00:52:00,660 lower ones and so one can imagine maybe 1211 00:52:05,060 --> 00:52:02,790 things not working maybe analogy not 1212 00:52:06,260 --> 00:52:05,070 working out even more so back then but 1213 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:06,270 it sounds like that's not the issue here 1214 00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:09,570 now this is roughly this is rough enough 1215 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:11,160 to be considered a local universe okay 1216 00:52:17,690 --> 00:52:14,370 okay did you have another slide I had 1217 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:17,700 actually just um one last question for 1218 00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:22,890 to pose about this okay why um how do 1219 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:26,280 you get at galaxy no no no no no no how 1220 00:52:33,050 --> 00:52:29,370 do you get a 100,000 light year long 1221 00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:33,060 streamer of gas all right no matter what 1222 00:52:37,790 --> 00:52:34,500 its shape is no matter what it's done 1223 00:52:41,540 --> 00:52:37,800 how do you get that I'm gonna say black 1224 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:41,550 holes that's my answer to everything I 1225 00:52:50,530 --> 00:52:44,250 don't understand all right up till the 1226 00:52:54,590 --> 00:52:53,240 there are three possibilities mentioned 1227 00:52:58,690 --> 00:52:54,600 in the press release none of them are 1228 00:53:01,460 --> 00:52:58,700 compelling okay how does material 1229 00:53:03,980 --> 00:53:01,470 collapse it you can come up with an idea 1230 00:53:06,170 --> 00:53:03,990 that material should cool down towards 1231 00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,180 the center of a cluster of galaxies but 1232 00:53:11,330 --> 00:53:08,400 that doesn't form it into a streamer 1233 00:53:13,070 --> 00:53:11,340 okay you could say that you know this is 1234 00:53:15,290 --> 00:53:13,080 maybe he's a title the remnant of a 1235 00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,300 title tail wrapped around these galaxies 1236 00:53:19,010 --> 00:53:17,520 but you know the kinematic so that 1237 00:53:21,610 --> 00:53:19,020 doesn't really quite work why is it 1238 00:53:23,780 --> 00:53:21,620 wrapped in between the galaxies and such 1239 00:53:25,610 --> 00:53:23,790 there's going to be a lot more study to 1240 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:25,620 understand this way how sure are they 1241 00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:27,090 this is this is actually not some kind 1242 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:29,760 of a loser II effect with it with you 1243 00:53:33,860 --> 00:53:31,770 know the line of sight or something how 1244 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:33,870 do they sure these droplets or these 1245 00:53:40,430 --> 00:53:37,850 blue dots are in between intertwined I 1246 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:40,440 would believe that the sense they are 1247 00:53:45,530 --> 00:53:42,210 star clusters they have emission lines 1248 00:53:46,580 --> 00:53:45,540 and they can rich if the bishop taking a 1249 00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:46,590 look at the road trip to the emission 1250 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:48,270 lines they can look at the redshift of 1251 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:50,370 the galaxies and make sure that they are 1252 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:52,770 the same okay all right so they do have 1253 00:53:58,220 --> 00:53:55,650 sort of a 3d structure to this then by 1254 00:54:01,610 --> 00:53:58,230 looking at the specular so this is one 1255 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:01,620 of my fun points to make is that we 1256 00:54:06,590 --> 00:54:03,930 don't know the answer and you know what 1257 00:54:09,230 --> 00:54:06,600 that's not bad that's actually really 1258 00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:09,240 good okay one its job security for us 1259 00:54:14,660 --> 00:54:12,510 right all right but to when you see 1260 00:54:16,970 --> 00:54:14,670 something like this it's your indication 1261 00:54:19,310 --> 00:54:16,980 that hey we don't know what's going on 1262 00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:19,320 there's something new to understand 1263 00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,260 about the universe we love and 1264 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:24,240 confronting our ignorance because it 1265 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:25,770 shows us there's something new to 1266 00:54:29,690 --> 00:54:27,930 understand okay yeah i think was it 1267 00:54:31,070 --> 00:54:29,700 George gamma for somebody back in the 1268 00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:31,080 day said that we know just about 1269 00:54:36,350 --> 00:54:32,430 everything there is to know or at least 1270 00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:36,360 we will and hug people have said that 1271 00:54:42,430 --> 00:54:39,030 over the centuries yeah always been so 1272 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:42,440 wrong it out already we know most things 1273 00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:45,570 okay so i put up the slide that we we 1274 00:54:51,890 --> 00:54:47,220 said we would do about the upcoming 1275 00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,900 public lectures so go ahead the day just 1276 00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:53,280 wanted to point out to everybody that 1277 00:54:57,620 --> 00:54:55,740 this little hangout the Frank and I do 1278 00:54:59,630 --> 00:54:57,630 every month is in conjunction with the 1279 00:55:01,850 --> 00:54:59,640 Hubble public lecture series that we 1280 00:55:04,850 --> 00:55:01,860 have on the first Tuesday of every month 1281 00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:04,860 but Frank September 18th isn't the first 1282 00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:07,740 Tuesday not the first Tuesday we've got 1283 00:55:14,930 --> 00:55:12,510 a special lecture for you ray-j Ardana 1284 00:55:17,060 --> 00:55:14,940 from York University's coming in he's 1285 00:55:19,130 --> 00:55:17,070 giving a colloquium here a scientific 1286 00:55:21,620 --> 00:55:19,140 colloquium and he also agreed to give a 1287 00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:21,630 public lecture on that Thursday so I 1288 00:55:24,299 --> 00:55:22,390 said 1289 00:55:27,180 --> 00:55:24,309 eight will add you to the schedule and 1290 00:55:30,359 --> 00:55:27,190 we have a live an amazing talk on 1291 00:55:32,339 --> 00:55:30,369 nutrino hunters the ghostly particles of 1292 00:55:33,930 --> 00:55:32,349 neutrinos that you know you've got a 1293 00:55:36,269 --> 00:55:33,940 billion neutrinos passing through you 1294 00:55:39,359 --> 00:55:36,279 every second right now and you don't 1295 00:55:41,849 --> 00:55:39,369 feel anything but we can also use these 1296 00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:41,859 neutrinos to unlock cosmic secrets and 1297 00:55:46,829 --> 00:55:45,369 he will talk about that awesome and then 1298 00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:46,839 of course our regular one first Tuesday 1299 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:48,880 of the month october seventh Greg Snyder 1300 00:55:54,509 --> 00:55:51,369 will talk about simulating the universe 1301 00:55:56,940 --> 00:55:54,519 the illustrious computational simulation 1302 00:56:00,180 --> 00:55:56,950 when the largest computer simulations of 1303 00:56:01,859 --> 00:56:00,190 how structure forms in the universe he 1304 00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:01,869 is part of that team and he will tell 1305 00:56:06,210 --> 00:56:04,089 you all sorts of secrets of how to make 1306 00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:06,220 a fake universe and see if it matches 1307 00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:08,529 the real universe yeah I'm really 1308 00:56:11,370 --> 00:56:09,760 excited about that one because if you 1309 00:56:13,769 --> 00:56:11,380 haven't heard of this do a search for 1310 00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:13,779 Don Gong Gong on Google and it'll come 1311 00:56:17,759 --> 00:56:15,760 up there's a youtube video that nature 1312 00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:17,769 put out that shows this simulation to 1313 00:56:21,210 --> 00:56:20,049 it's just amazing you've got to check 1314 00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:21,220 it's one of the neatest things I've ever 1315 00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,500 seen it all so in addition to checking 1316 00:56:27,269 --> 00:56:25,119 out the public lecture next month I 1317 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:27,279 definitely do a search on that you'll be 1318 00:56:33,269 --> 00:56:28,890 haven't seen it yet it it's 1319 00:56:34,499 --> 00:56:33,279 mind-boggling so okay frankly a couple 1320 00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:34,509 of questions here I want to get to a few 1321 00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:37,119 things we're running out of time but 1322 00:56:42,089 --> 00:56:39,190 i'll start with an easy one this one's 1323 00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:42,099 from angel lights three how long does 1324 00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:43,660 the hubble take to do a complete 1325 00:56:51,539 --> 00:56:48,160 rotation around our mother earth okay 1326 00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:51,549 Hubble does orbits around Earth every 1327 00:56:58,349 --> 00:56:54,880 ninety seven minutes if you watch the 1328 00:57:01,440 --> 00:56:58,359 movie gravity they put it at like 90 1329 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:01,450 minutes right yeah and it's actually 97 1330 00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,450 minutes at the the orbit of Hubble bear 1331 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:06,640 i always say 90 minutes but yes Proxima 1332 00:57:10,259 --> 00:57:08,410 90 minutes so we've been talking for 1333 00:57:12,210 --> 00:57:10,269 almost an hour Hubble has completed two 1334 00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:12,220 thirds of an orbit around the earth 1335 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:15,369 while we've been chatting here yeah good 1336 00:57:18,990 --> 00:57:17,890 question okay here's one from we're 1337 00:57:22,349 --> 00:57:19,000 getting some questions on this i'll 1338 00:57:25,460 --> 00:57:22,359 start with stargazer nation what's what 1339 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:25,470 is next for the telescope any uploading 1340 00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:28,960 upcoming highlights I wonder how close 1341 00:57:32,460 --> 00:57:30,670 it would focus and are they going to see 1342 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:32,470 siding spring there's a couple of 1343 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:34,240 questions about that and if you had any 1344 00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:36,010 news on site 1345 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:42,190 spring on that as well so okay first of 1346 00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:43,870 all Hubble will be observing comet 1347 00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:47,680 siding spring Hubble the comet siding 1348 00:57:53,370 --> 00:57:50,520 spring is going to pass close to mars 1349 00:57:58,140 --> 00:57:53,380 the information on comet siding spring 1350 00:58:02,040 --> 00:57:58,150 is that it is not its comas not growing 1351 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:02,050 as fast as it one might have thought so 1352 00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:05,230 the coma of common siding spring which I 1353 00:58:08,190 --> 00:58:06,580 never thought was actually going to 1354 00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:08,200 encompass Mars doesn't look like it's 1355 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:10,360 going to encompass Mars although you 1356 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:11,770 know the density falls off very very 1357 00:58:16,050 --> 00:58:13,930 slowly so definitely some particles 1358 00:58:19,860 --> 00:58:16,060 traveling with comet siding Springs will 1359 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:19,870 impact Mars but the risk to the Mars 1360 00:58:26,220 --> 00:58:23,170 orbiters etc is a little lower than we 1361 00:58:27,660 --> 00:58:26,230 have might have been feared calm Hubble 1362 00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,670 will be looking at the comment itself 1363 00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:29,920 because Hubble has the best resolution 1364 00:58:35,790 --> 00:58:32,710 of any telescope here located at earth 1365 00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:35,800 and so we can't see the full the the 1366 00:58:41,340 --> 00:58:37,480 size of deciding Springs it's so small 1367 00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:41,350 we will be able to see if any parts any 1368 00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:43,030 pieces of it break off anything 1369 00:58:47,070 --> 00:58:45,040 happening with the comet Hubble will be 1370 00:58:49,890 --> 00:58:47,080 monitoring it during the closest 1371 00:58:52,830 --> 00:58:49,900 approach and that it comes up in October 1372 00:58:56,250 --> 00:58:52,840 doesn't it I think so yes yeah okay and 1373 00:58:59,700 --> 00:58:56,260 that is also a Geneva Bevan also from 1374 00:59:02,250 --> 00:58:59,710 the Q&A app was asking about siding 1375 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:02,260 spring so there you go folks thank good 1376 00:59:11,330 --> 00:59:06,250 questions and here's one from Eamon of 1377 00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:11,340 Brampton who's asking um where to go 1378 00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:17,110 then it went away uh come back okay all 1379 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:21,670 right fine so so Janine I was also 1380 00:59:26,660 --> 00:59:23,530 saying all now I'm sitting in my desk 1381 00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:26,670 coming along to rubber ducky thanks guys 1382 00:59:36,780 --> 00:59:31,240 ducky or the one you may drag astronomy 1383 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:36,790 so much fun that's right now all saying 1384 00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:38,770 thank you for that yes rubber duck okay 1385 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:39,910 I don't know what happened to that 1386 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:41,800 question it had to do with exoplanets 1387 00:59:46,290 --> 00:59:43,930 but it disappeared from my Q&A app I'm 1388 00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:46,300 really sorry about that I guess that'll 1389 00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:48,790 be so that is it for our time I don't 1390 00:59:52,830 --> 00:59:49,870 see any other 1391 00:59:56,430 --> 00:59:52,840 shins or comments that I should read out 1392 00:59:58,290 --> 00:59:56,440 thank you all for watching the four 1393 01:00:00,600 --> 00:59:58,300 participating during the Q&A app I 1394 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:00,610 really appreciate that we will be back 1395 01:00:05,070 --> 01:00:04,000 again next month with Frank oh no no sep 1396 01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:05,080 tember we are we going to do this again 1397 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:06,910 this month are we going to just wait 1398 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:09,010 till October well we're already into 1399 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:10,570 September this is sep tember i know we 1400 01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:12,570 had another public lecture so ah i 1401 01:00:18,260 --> 01:00:15,580 wanted to i wasn't planning on doing a 1402 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:18,270 huge news summary for the September 18th 1403 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:20,290 I'm alright and we won't worry about 1404 01:00:24,270 --> 01:00:22,690 that will diff if something amazing 1405 01:00:26,490 --> 01:00:24,280 happens with siding Springs or anything 1406 01:00:30,780 --> 01:00:26,500 we can jump in and do that actually I'll 1407 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:30,790 be my son's going to color ok I'll 1408 01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:33,970 late-september so we'll have to do it in 1409 01:00:39,180 --> 01:00:37,030 October ok look yes so look back for for 1410 01:00:40,650 --> 01:00:39,190 the next episode of this with Frank I at 1411 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:40,660 the beginning of October right after the 1412 01:00:44,010 --> 01:00:42,130 public lecture series we just talked 1413 01:00:45,660 --> 01:00:44,020 about I want to thank you Frank this was 1414 01:00:47,010 --> 01:00:45,670 awesome as always you've done an 1415 01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:47,020 excellent job bringing some awesome crow 1416 01:00:51,150 --> 01:00:49,030 stories to us so thank you very much 1417 01:00:54,290 --> 01:00:51,160 we're an excellent job of asking 1418 01:00:57,780 --> 01:00:54,300 questions and keeping me honest about it 1419 01:00:59,550 --> 01:00:57,790 my job as what I do all right all right